Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.), who announced he wouldn’t seek reelection following his decision to vote down President Donald Trump ’s sweeping domestic policy bill earlier this month, on Wednesday slammed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth as “out of his depth” in his role at the Pentagon.

MSNBC Columnist Charlie Sykes and Founder and CEO of Independent Veterans of America Paul Rieckhoff join Nicolle Wallace to discuss new reporting from the Associated Press and CNN revealing that Trump privately expressed frustration with Pentagon officials for announcing a pause in some weapons deliveries to Ukraine last week and key officials were also not told about the pause beforehand.